Web hosting...Anybody familiar with webhostinghub?

tlwmsu
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Posted: Mon, 2011-04-04 19:58

I'm just about done with hostmonster. Slow...down time happening more and more. In fact, my site is down as I type this.

I looked at http://webhostinggeeks.com/ and webhostinghub seems to get some pretty high marks. Also looks like they fit the requirements for G3. With their current pricing, I can get a dedicated IP for the same price I've got a shared IP at hostmonster. Not sure if that will be beneficial or not.

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nivekiam
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Posted: Mon, 2011-04-04 20:59
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Not sure if that will be beneficial or not.

No, it's not. You only need a dedicated IP if you're going to get your own SSL cert.
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nivekiam
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Posted: Mon, 2011-04-04 21:03

btw, http://www.webhostinghub.com/ is a reseller if inmotion hosting services, or they might be buying dedicated servers from them and then providing services. Unless they truly have 100% full control of their servers and they are not maintained by inmotion hosting, I probably wouldn't use them.

They also advertise "unlimited" bandwidth and disk space. There is no such thing and it's a false advertisement. I wouldn't use them based solely on that.

See their Terms of Service:
http://www.webhostinghub.com/terms-of-service.html

How big is your Gallery install? You might already be exceeding their service...
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tlwmsu
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Posted: Mon, 2011-04-04 21:34
nivekiam wrote:
btw, http://www.webhostinghub.com/ is a reseller if inmotion hosting services, or they might be buying dedicated servers from them and then providing services. Unless they truly have 100% full control of their servers and they are not maintained by inmotion hosting, I probably wouldn't use them.

They also advertise "unlimited" bandwidth and disk space. There is no such thing and it's a false advertisement. I wouldn't use them based solely on that.

See their Terms of Service:
http://www.webhostinghub.com/terms-of-service.html

How big is your Gallery install? You might already be exceeding their service...
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Good info. Buzzkill, but good info. :)

I knew there was a good reason I didn't get a dedicated IP before.

I see from a search that pairlite (2GB space, 50GB bandwidth), pair networks, and linode seem to be suggested recommendations. I'm not sure right now if I can afford those that would fit my space needs. I have a LONG way to go in scanning and uploading family photos, so space and file number limits are a problem for me. Currently (site seems to be back up...for now) hostmonster is reporting the following for me (this is with a parallel G2 still up and running too) :

File Count 25487
Bandwidth 318 MB (March 2011...highest monthly transfer to date probably due to high volume of uploads/Gallery photo views/updates by me.)
Space Usage 34651.85 MB (that seems awfully high to me) public html folder is 615 MB ?

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nivekiam
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Posted: Fri, 2011-04-08 22:25

Right, wrong or indifferent here, you're going to get a shovel full of my opinion here. (some times these types of replies take me a little while to compose)

You get what you pay for :) You have a personal site and you want to host everything under the sun for your family (photo related). And you want to do it for as little money as you can. I know you want to keep control over your stuff because you're using software like Gallery. Keeping a large Gallery install can be work if you're at a lower end host where things tend to flake out (database, network, file systems, overloaded with other users, etc). Perhaps it's because I'm helping out with support issues with Gallery, but I do see a lot of people who have large Gallery installs at low-end hosts (HostGator, GoDaddy, Dreamhost, inmotion, etc) who have problems. Mostly because they want to host tons and tons of photos and these "unlimited" hosts all still have limits. Usually on the number of files and because of the nature of the beast, Gallery creates several files for each image you upload. Other than the original, full size image (which can be reduced using G2's size limit module) the other files are typically small, however the shear number of them impact performance. You've also got to remember you're not the only user on a shared server so there could be many, many more files on the same file system you're sharing than just what you have.

If someone were to pay me for advice, here's what I'd give them:

For a business, it's your business, your business is relying on this, pay up.

For a casual site, family site, etc. You've got to make several decisions/compromises;
1) Do you really need to share all photos ever taken of the family?
.... If so, decide if you want a slow site and save money and suffer or if you want a decent performing site and pay up.

2) Decide to sacrifice sharing everything and probably also not sharing high res images and just pick the gems out to share. Out of about 15,000+ personal photos I have, maybe 1,000 that I would deem worthy of sharing.

3) Use Facebook and create a private group page :)

4) Pay $25/year and use Flickr to upload as much as you want :)
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tlwmsu
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Posted: Sat, 2011-04-09 01:58

Thanks for that reply. I will admit that I started the site (using Gallery) as a way to honor my Dad. That grew exponentially when I decided that our older family photos would fade into oblivion eventually if they weren't scanned in, and if I've got them in this format, why not share them. So, what started out as a 5k run turned into a full Forrest Gump trek across the country and back...

1) No. But there are quite a lot of photos in the year range and family members that I do want to scan/share.
2) At this point, I have less than 600 images on the site. No really big problems with speed that I can tell...just haphazard access to the site and frustration with never knowing when it will be up or down. My best guess is that I would have a total of 2,000 images at the most. I could be wrong since my "plan" so far for the site has been "whatever".
3) No FB account. I know. I feel like I'm in the 17th century.
4) NO! :)

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nivekiam
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Posted: Sat, 2011-04-09 05:28
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At this point, I have less than 600 images on the site. No really big problems with speed that I can tell...just haphazard access to the site and frustration with never knowing when it will be up or down. My best guess is that I would have a total of 2,000 images at the most. I could be wrong since my "plan" so far for the site has been "whatever".

Then find a different host. You don't have that many images and there should be no way you're taking up the amount of space your host claims you are.

http://www.pairlite.com/hosting/

Yeah, I know 2GB doesn't sound like a lot, but really, if you downsize those images and don't use your site as an archival service (there are better options for that) you can easily fit 1000s of images on that plan. Really for web browsing and displaying images in the browser, your images can be down in the 100-300KB range and still be plenty big and good enough quality for display on any monitor.

That's all part of deciding on what types of compromises you want to do.
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